I'll let you know when I hear from them. I also called the local Toyota dealership and confirmed that no warranty is voided with an aftermarket transmission cooler. I was looking on line and there seems to be no end to the various styles and sizes available. We found it very interesting and informative. Pretty much what Silvertip said, but I think you are on (or over) the edge of your truck's towing ability even with a tranny cooler. Cod and had a playpen setup up in the tent with a little one on each side of it sleeping. I really do think that with all the after market coolers that exist out there that there isn't one made that will fit other than a Toyota. Post edited 10:46 pm – February 9, 2011 by Royal Coachman — Centennial, Colorado, Isn't it fun to look back on the way things used to be and much they have improved! Maybe someone from one of those markets can be of assistance. I certainly appreciate the posts I have received and look forward to any additional ones. That being said, they feel that since I won't be trying to climb the Colorado Rockies and will be heading east and/or south most trips, most travel will be spent at lower altitudes which would mean more horsepower and flatter terrain. If the vehicle in question has a thermostat that opens at 195 degrees F, once warmed to operating temperature, the transmission cooler will have a tough time reducing the heat of the ATF below 195 degrees F. At the same time, if the transmission is overworked, it might raise the operating temperature of the ATF to 250 degrees F or more. Does the transmission cooler do anything if you are not towing? In summary, they said to definately have the cooler and gauge installed. In such instances as described above, you should consider installing a transmission cooler. We upgraded to a pop-up in 1967. I can't get a good pic of the cooler installed…just looks like the grill of a car. 8. That's not a heavy trailer by any stretch, but you could easily overheat your transmission in stop-and-go traffic or climbing hills. We had 5 kids total and all but one of them still goes camping, all still in tents! p.s. Again, thanks for sharing your travel experience. Money well spent in my opinion. Can you purchase a gasoline can at a thrift shop? Post edited 3:03 am – January 14, 2012 by kayaknut, Thanks for sharing the details of your experience with your 14RB. I sure hope they are correct. At a minimum, an oil temp gauge is needed. Vincent I share your feelings on the number of miles a day — as I had mentioned in my latest post, we try to maintain a 300 to 350 mile max a day but there again we are retired and have that kind of opportunity and luxury. Added one cooler and fuild temp dropped down to 198* f, still alittle too warm, so I added another and temp then ran 180* f. yes like anything overheating the trans will rune it.You should have a Trans cooler anyways Look to see if you have a smaller radiator in front of the radiator .If not have 1 installed you don't want to wreak the trans.Also if your puling alot i suggest a power controller you can switch the program form hauling to economy by pressing a button. That last day sounds like a killer for sure. We have tried the rest areas, and truck stops. If you're pulling something big and heavy like a camper, you may want to make the upgrade. And last but not least, drive at reasonable speeds — like 55 to 60 mph. Our target in recent years has been around 300 to 350 miles a day. You enjoy your travels and be sure to "Keep The Shiney Side Up"! When driving uphill in hot weather, the Many manufacturers are now also recommending the addition of a transmission cooler if you carry extra passengers or cargo (ie â vacation, car-pool), drive in stop-and-go traffic, drive in hot or very cold weather, or climb steep inclines. Comments please. Do I need a transmission cooler for towing? That is with a company other than Kia. Do I need to be thinking about a transmission cooler or anything like that? from tent to pop-up, 17′ hard top, to large 5th wheels and then class C and now downsizing to the 19′ KZ. Who really needs a transmission oil cooler? If there is an opportunity to repair your equipment without resorting to towing, then it is better to do so. Hi mbanda, Thanks for your reply. I just bought this car because I understood that pulling a trailer with a 3500 lb GVWR would be a match for a vehicle rated to pull a 3500 lb trailer. Should you tow a two wheel drive vehicle equipped with an automatic transmission with the driving wheels on the ground, catastrophic failure may occur. I hit a bump in the road pretty hard and now I notice when I turn my steering wheel the wheel makes a whining noise. . Did you find out if those additions will affect your vehicle warranty? Personally, Iâd leave the Toyota at home and ride the Harley. You just need a more powerful vehicle. Towing Mirror Extensions Need advice on choosing the correct hitch 2015 SR5 Brake controller Need Power Folding Tow Mirrors Towing problems- No transmission cooler on 2020 TRD Pro Discussion in ' Towing & Hauling ' started by RIck729 , Jun 16, 2020 . Marilyn does drive on, occossion but not when it comes to driving with anything behind us. If either of us feel tired or just not up we can just stay where we are for an extra day. I understand the suggestion to have a larger towing vehicle, but I'd rather have a little better gas mileage with a smaller (yet capable) vehicle the other nine months of the year. The 4 used to come with dedicated trans coolers (4th gen) but Toyota either eliminated this due to budget concerns or found it doesn't really need it. not a huge cost but I would like to know if anyone install it not for towing, but more like a preventive upgrade. It is believed that if you tow a lot or heavy loads that you need a separate, dedicated trans cooler. I think that would go a long way towards more frequent transmission fluid changes, but still it is quite the bummer. That warranty will not be affected by the addition. They were very willing to put in a transmission cooler for me, and had it done in about a day. And our mileage definitely suffers when encountering a headwind. I spoke with the folks at the transmission shop today and they told me their thoughts on the subect. Could be a vehicle-specific requirement. it's about $300 if I install both kits buy myself. I knew I would be towing the trailer when I bought the car so I purchased an additional and extended warranty. This cooler was also one of our top choices for use in towing applications in our guide to transmission coolers for towing. That sounds like a long trip you took at Christmas but then again that's a little warmer climate than we are used to in Colorado at Christmas time. I'm having on installed on my RAV4 today. If you overload the vehicle, no amount of cooling will make it haul or tow more than the maximum specified weight. We would have stopped but we were trying to beat a late April snow storm. On a trip 5 or 6 years ago we were retuning from back east by way of Kansas and ran into wind. Going on these results, I do not think I have a need for an oil cooler. I asked transmission repair experts in Milton, Brisbane, who do fleet as well, about my 2005 Landcruiser TD auto and reply was a flat and firm "No, they already have that well sorted" and strict advice to stay away from aftermarket because, "If anything is going to fail on a LC it will be an aftermarket part". I guess that's not a, big deal unless I were to get sick when we are on the road. Don't forget to "Keep The Shiny Side Up". Charles Darwin, Hi John, I've spoken with Kia about the cooler and they only carry a replacement for vehicles that came with a factory cooler. – WD Hitch – Anti sway Control – Electric Brakes. Apparently over this temp, one is in "danger country" as far as life of transmission lasts!!! The factory transmission cooling is designed for the GVWR of the van, not the added weight or wind resistance of the trailer. So, did the units with a tow package have an auxiliary cooler, as well? Towing and Tow Vehicles Get answers by asking now. We allowed 3 days from Houston to Atlanta over Christmas just so that we had a chance of setting up each day while it was still light out. They don't list specific applications but I'll bet if you email or call them they will be able to help. 1 decade ago. I'm not trying to make you feel bad, it's just one of the benefits of retirement. Maybe that's why they choose Kansas to film The Wizard of Oz. The car is rated to pull 3500 lbs. Hey Guys, Im not sure if need an oil cooler for automatic transmission..In a 3.2ltr Turbo Diesel powered van..I will be towing a trailer that is a total weight of 750kg and the load will never be anymore than 300kg..Is it true that the gearbox can suffer severe damage if overheated too much? Most vehicles with A/T have a cooler that is shared (but fluids are separated) with the engine radiator and *some will have an additional cooler that runs from the radiator (cooler) to the aux cooler, then back to the transmission. We have had every type of RV except a Class A over the years. We started camping in 1956 when our oldest was one year old. But would these additions void any factory warranty you may still have? Hey Guys, Im not sure if need an oil cooler for automatic transmission..In a 3.2ltr Turbo Diesel powered van..I will be towing a trailer that is a total weight of 750kg and the load will never be anymore than 300kg..Is it true that the gearbox can suffer severe damage if overheated too much? We had an F-150 pulling a 23' Mallard TT at the time and went through $160. is it possible to bypass egr switch for a 220 cdi mercerdes benz 2008 model? Yup, you need a transmission cooler. In a perfect world I would agree with your recommendation. I really like the switching off you are able to do with the driving. Ken, what does Kia Engineering recommend on use of oil cooler, since you will be maxing the weight rating most of the time? I'll bet you will do everything you can to avoid another day like that one. No leaks, and no issues with the transmission after installation even with towing a trailer for many many miles. Thanks, Ken. Sometimes an auxiliary transmission cooler offers benefits. Change engine oil and filter at 3,000 to 5,000 when towing. You have a stock trans cooler built into your rad., but for towing, hard driving, racing, etc it's not enough to keep the trans cool enough. Tow-er: 2010 RAV4 3.5L 269 hp V6 with Tow Pkg ~ Tow-ee: 2011 Sportsmen Classic 14RB ~ Director: The wife. SUBARU warranties do not apply to vehicle damage or malfunction caused by trailer towing.. Ken & Marilyn. However at this point a have only had the TV for 2 months and am not in a situation to be able to trade for a different vehicle. 2010 16BH towed by 2002 F-150 Super Crew 4.6L V8. Tommy Bayeast. Kia gave me the same response on my warranty — with one exception; it must be installed by a professional mechanic and I must be able to furnish a receipt if needed. Use best transmission cooler for towing is better only in extreme cases. Krunk Man: 11-14-2010 12:42 PM: nope your fine. Keep a close eye on the temp, plan on frequent transmission oil changes — ie: instead of changing x-mission oil at 75,000 as recommended by Kia, change it every 40,000 – 45,000 miles and be certain to change filter at that time also. Transmission coolers come in many different shapes and sizes, and there are a few things to consider when choosing one. That was bad news to hear they can't add a generic cooler to your Rav-4. Not sure how committed you are to your TV, but in my opinion, you would be happier with a full size truck or SUV with a v8. It's just one more thing to think about. I have a 2009 Kia Sedona with a 6 cyl engine and will be pulling a Spree Escape E19SB. Re: Do I need a transmission cooler? I was also very pleased to hear the response you got from Toyota on the warranty. An add on cooler kit is only $35-50. Yes the #1 cause of auto trans failure is overheating. 1 decade ago. You don't necessarily have to have a transmission cooler, but if you plan on towing more towards your max trailer capacity it is definitely beneficial and reduces strain on your engine. Having an oil cooler will not harm the transmission and may help in keeping the oil temperatures down. Keep the answers coming too and don't forget to "Keep The Shinny Side. | This website is not affiliated with KZRV LP of Shipshewana, IN. I'm going into a local transmission shop tomorrow to get their opinion / thoughts and recommendations. I'm glad your vehicle is going to be okay through this towing process and that you don't have to upgrade to a bigger tow vehicle. My main use of the trailer will be for travel — most of which will be east and south of where we live. That's a lot of miles in one day even w/o a trailer. Subaru has a transmission cooler for towing with SJ's in some non US markets. For the same reason, the addition of an auxiliary transmission fluid cooler isnât just necessary for those who tow trailers anymore. I have just purchased a 2007 E250 Super Duty Econoline van, do I need to purchase an extra Automatic transmission cooler if I am going to tow a U-Haul auto transport trailer (2000 lbs) on wich I will ⌠read more I'm planning on using my 2010 X5 35d to tow a 3000lb car on an open trailer. That will leave us about 900 lbs cargo, etc. An additional transmission cooler would help but I donât have enough faith in the CVT transmission to use this vehicle for towing. A look at the options list shows the auxiliary trans fluid cooler is part of the Tow Prep Package which do not have and will be pricy to get. Pretty cheap insurance for a prolonged transmission and transmission fluid, I think. It seems our worse experiences with it have occured in either Kansas or Nebraska. It was very enlightening. I will continue to update this thread. 0 0. Change differential oil at 40,000 to 45,000 miles same as x-mission oil, and finally stay as close to the manufactures recommended weights as possible. Give that a try. Transmission fluid cannot be cooled too much, so the addition of a cooler is a good idea, especially if you are towing. Anonymous. Cooking your transmission while towing is only too common and can be easily avoided by adding a transmission oil cooler. They agreed with the x-mission shop and will be installing the cooler & gauge. You only really need a transmission cooler for towing. of fuel just crossing part of Kansas. I guess $280 is cheap compared to a transmission overhaul. It does so by cooling heated fluid that is sent through it by using the air flowing over the fins of the cooler. Post edited 4:27 am – February 18, 2011 by pfidahospud, Took the RAV to a local transmission shop and asked their opinion. I have not been able to find any specific information about Kia and x-mission coolers on-line or in my owners manual. I hope this is of interest to members and at least gives some idea of what is happening whilst towing. I expect the bill to be around $200…just seems like fairly cheap insurance to hopefully avoid burning up a transmission. Also, thanks for the well wishes in our travels and the very same to you and the director. DO WE REALLY NEED TRANSMISSION OIL COOLERS? In response to your comment about travel habits, we are both retired and have the freedom of being able to drive fewer miles a day. How do we know if we need one on a vehicle that is not equiped with one and will be pulling a trailer. Even with a x-mission cooler, I think you are going to have x-mission trouble in a short order……you're under powered for the task at hand. This can harden and seal up metal components. As mentioned BA/BF Transmissions are prone to start making Milkshakes around the 170,000 mark. 0 0. Pic of the cooler box is here if you're interested. WOW! I have attached a link to the site as follows; http://www.transmissioncoolers…..bAodKnlYBw. 31s greatly increase the torque stresses on your drivetrain and 36s are even worse. If there is a noticable diff. Thanks for the interest. I, remember when we were camping in a tent (with 4 kids at that time). On the other hand, something small like your bass boat will pull along just fine without heating the system up any more than regular driving would. I'm interested in becoming a car mechanic but I am scared of...? A transmission cooler that is designed for being used in towing situations will help keep your transmission fluid cooler. Hi All, I'm sure I'm not alone in this topic of mass confusion. DO WE REALLY NEED TRANSMISSION OIL COOLERS? After having blown one transmission on our BT-50 while four-wheel driving and having it replaced under warranty, we were extremely cautious about hitching a ⌠Hopefully the Sedona is set up a bit differently to have the option of the transmission cooler. Any thoughts or suggestion? They are usually more secenic in our estimation. Who really needs a transmission oil cooler? I would put an auto trans cooler on any Falcon regardless of towing or not! With the rad cooler my transmission was running at 215* f (200*f is the max you ever want the trans to go to). Just one site I looked at has what appears to be an endless number of sizes and types. Yes. The curb weight of the trailer is 2600 lbs. Thanks, Ken for the updates. We were at Cape. Unless we properly install the cooler, it may do more harm than good. The truck stops have been great but I've always been uneasy about rest, areas unless there were other campers or truckers there too. A transmission fluid cooler is a great option even if youâre not towing. It's very comforting to hear more positive input on the subject. With its size and cooling capacity, thereâs no question this can be an option for the best transmission cooler for drag racing. On my camaro that I race, I run 2 extra trans coolers. Most folks would like to extend the life of their vehicle and many people consider an auxiliary automatic transmission cooler. I spoke with a Kia mechanic and he was not able to come up with any 'official' recommendation other than his personal comment, which was to pickup an after market kit and oil temp gauge and watch it closely to see if there is any major change with and without the trailer behind. red. Spree Escape E19SB – 2009 Kia Sedona 6 cyl. It seems to be in question at this point. Thanks for your reply to my post. It just seems a shame when a person wants to do the right thing that there isn't one somewhere. As long as you have a transmission cooler with a appropriate GVW rating, you can safely tow within your vehicleâs towing capacity. 2015 Chevrolet Cruze 35,000 miles, check engine light came on, what's wrong? Hi sandersmr, I would imagine that most of us have experienced the ugly wind at one time or another. 0 0. I also have a trans temp gauge. I went to a really good 4 X 4 shop and talked with them about it too. In the case of the 4X4, when shifted into neutral (the 4X4 control.....not the transmission gearshift) it completely disconnects the transmission from the driving wheels. Total cost: $165. Yes, I think a transmission cooler, if it is designed properly, is a great idea for any car. FG Falcons have the same problems as well. Vendors, eager to make a sales, often overstate what a transmission coolers can do. Anyway, all this boils down to the fact that we can take our time and don't have to push, which I think is to our benefit as far as the TV is concerned. 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