It’s frustrating to have everything finally come together, only to shoot high or low due to not knowing where to hold. There are 3 factors that contribute to making a quality shot on an animal in the field: (1) Practicing with your weapon, (2) Knowing the distance to your target, and (3) Knowing where to aim. Animals shot here, generally will go down in minutes, if not seconds. You need to understand that there are very lethal shot locations that can be made, and we have nothing against someone choosing to take those shots. 3. Not only insuring a quick death, but the solid blood trail as well needed to insure recovery. An extreme quartering away shot will offer little room for error as the margin between the back hip and front shoulder shrinks as the angle of the elk away from the hunter increases. The image above is a great reference for where you want to aim on a broadside shot. Bullet frontal area has a positive correlation with killing power (other factors being equal). One of my hunting buddies has a barnes X bullet he recovered from the hide on the opposite side of a cow elk he shot. A pass through, and that is what you get most of the time if you hit that bull where I have shown you. Thanks for this great information and supporting graphics. Great stuff. To learn more, subscribe to the University of Elk Hunting. There is only one feeling worse than tracking an elk after a bad shot, and that is not finding that elk. My view was almost identical to the photo above with the red shot placement dot, except he was looking to my right. Elk are incredibly tough animals, and a broadhead in the neck or shoulder won’t typically provide the lethal results we desire. The image to the left provides a good reference for each shot possibility. There are 5 shots to look at when considering getting an arrow or bullet into the vital area: (1) Straight-away (rear) shots, (2) Quartering-away shots, (3) Broadside shots, (4) Quartering-to shots, and (5) Frontal (straight-on) shots. With that said, I have seen a ton of shots attempted there that have gone bad and give me three things to worry about as a guide: ( I always feel if it’s not me shooting, I am not in total control, so the variables of what can happen grow). Attending 3D shoots in the spring and summer  or shooting squirrels or other small game in the off-season can give you the confidence you need when determining the actual distance to your target. Shot Placement Feature | Elk101.com | Eat. All in all, a head-on shot with a bow is far more likely to result in a lost and wounded deer than a successful recovery. Whatever the case, we owe it to the animals we hunt to do all we can to make a quick, clean kill. Good luck on your next “moment”! We always recommend to shoot whatever works best with your setup. So long as your bullet is heavy and elk-tough, a frontal shot on elk is incredibly deadly. Spending time during the off-season practicing with your bow or rifle will increase your confidence in your weapon. To the contrary, I don't personally know one person who has lost an elk with a frontal shot." A password reset link will be e-mailed to you. I love the way you guys put your info out there. With that said, we will briefly discuss those shots and then we will give you our shot recommendation and the reasons behind it. Frustration and desperation have to lead to success, but more often than not, they lead to failure. 2. Deadly shot, If made. As you will see and hear in this video, someone behind the hunter is cow calling and luring the bull toward the hunter. But many bowhunters also believe that a quartering-away shot is the only way to that frontal area because it allows you to slip behind the shoulder. Due to the large hip and leg bones on the rear quarter of an elk, a straight-away shot is not typically a high-percentage or advisable shot. A shot at the brain is more likely to get down the deer within a few seconds and in the most humane way. Just as off-season practice will increase your confidence of being able to hit where you aim, knowing the distance to your target will also give you an additional advantage. This is not a shot we recommend. We will wait for the broadside shot, and you will shoot for the central lung shot just above the heart. The heart and all of the largest, busiest blood vessels that go with it, plus the trachea and front third … If you shoot back, there are still a lot of lungs behind you. My rule of thumb for a frontal shot is 15 yards or closer, and I allow myself plenty of time to make a shot, especially for elk. Perhaps we’ve all felt the heartache that often accompanies a missed shot. When it comes to shot placement on elk, remember that our emphasis as your coaches is to insure a solid, responsible and ethical shot. There is absolutely no question in my mind I killed that bull. I know this is a controversial subject, but hear me out. Elk Frontal shot courtesy of Elk 101 Where to aim for a quartering to shot: The quartering to shot is very similar and is a shot is will take on deer but not elk unless I am slightly elevated or slightly below and have the angle to place it within that 11×9″ window otherwise I’d prefer almost straight on When the moment of truth presents itself, it’s important to have confidence, knowing you’re going to hit where you aim. It is best to aim for the “vitals”, the area within the body cavity that houses the heart and lungs, as there are several major arteries in and around those organs that can produce sudden and severe blood loss. (2) Be sure to hit in the center and not to the side. HUNT ELK! Shooting off-center (especially combined with a low shot) on a frontal shot exposes an arrow to deflection off the ribs, resulting in the arrow penetrating between the rib cage and the shoulder blade. The Golden TriangleIf you look at the anatomy of a bull elk, the “golden triangle” that I am talking about is just that, golden if you ace it. The last factor that contributes to making a quality shot is knowing where to aim. Additionally, the entry hole is often behind the ribcage in the guts which can lead to a plugged entry hole. Being comfortable with the “manual” method of distance-judging is important. In other words, what's your objective and what are you aiming for with that shot? Bowhunting: Frontal Shot Placement. Quartering to shot Pick your aiming point to go through the front point of the near side shoulder, through the heart and angling back toward the last rib. Very little blood but tracked for about 1/2 a mile before loosing all blood. A shot here on a broadside animal can be anything from a direct heart shot, to hitting the top of the heart to a double lung hit even with the shot being a little high. As far as a .308 exiting an Elk, sometimes yes, sometimes no. About the only obstacle to consider is the smaller ribs that will be encountered at the back-end of the ribcage. If taking a quartering-away shot, try to visualize your entry/exit and aim so that you can get both lungs (minimize the angle) and/or get a good pass-through. Too low one way and hit the leg, or too far to the side and catch the shoulder bone, or too low another way and get brisket. The bullet weight required increases as bullet diameter increases. He ended up shooting it twice, although it would have been just as dead with the first shot. Be patient and hope for a better opportunity. My objective most times I shoot a big game animal and any time I'd shoot an elk with a bow is a double-lung shot. If I double lung the bull, he is going down in a hundred yards…especially if I bugle after my shot to calm him down. If an arrow is lucky enough to make it through this area of large bones, it still has a long ways to go to get into the vitals (up to 48″ on elk) and will often stop short of the lungs in the stomach/gut area. Penetration – many hunters will argue that it is difficult to get penetration in this area, referring to the “grapefruit-sized” opening you have to hit in order to miss the ribs. I held right on his trachea in the dark mane hair above the esophageal groove. A great aiming point is half-way up the body, right on the crease behind the shoulder. If not made correctly, it guarantees a wounded animal and no recovery. Those particular shots made by someone that totally understands an elk’s anatomy and taken within a hunters effective and solid killing range, if made, are extremely lethal. The last two shots are highly debated and can create controversy between even the best of hunting partners – the quartering-to and the frontal shots. So I always shoot for a double lung. I’m done elk hunting for the year, and will not take that shot again on an elk. I will, however, urge hunters to study the anatomy of an elk and determine for themselves whether the shot is effective or risky. Hard tracking job, with the possibility of losing blood trail. It is important to note, however, the angle of the leg bone. By Aron Snyder. Hoping to go up this Saturday and let the crows and buzzards find him for me. Do not forget the brain is the center of all life in a deer. This is not a bragging point, rather an example of how the frontal shot can be highly effective when selectively taken. To learn more, subscribe to the University of Elk Hunting . Never have I missed a frontal shot, nor had an animal turn on me upon release. The broadside shot is, without a doubt, the best shot you can take on an elk. ADVERTISEMENT. The guide then went on to convince me that when hunting on the ground, perfectly level with an elk, that the frontal shot is a fine shot to make at a close distance. For this reason, we would strongly advise against ever considering this shot. However, that’s a pretty small target, and finding it when shooting from an elevated stand is even more difficult. We would however like to drive home the fact that your goal should always be two holes, a pass-through, double lung hit. The time-tested and proven standby is the traditional broadside shot. Frontal is best avoided if possible, especially on heavy critters. Practice at the distances you plan to shoot. Contrary to many thoughts, the leg bone does not run straight up the leg but actually angles forward, creating a nice pocket directly above the point of the elbow. It’s a devastating shot. The frontal shot is one that is hotly contested. 37 is a long poke and probably better left to shots with less potential to go wrong. Most of the reasoning against taking the shot, however, has originated from one of two perspectives: a lack of understanding of elk anatomy or a previous bad experience with the shot. Well there you have it,,, The frontal shot is the best shot to take and gives hunters the best over all kill opportunity and the best opportunity for a double lung or heart shot according to you. Know your limits and STICK TO THEM IN THE FIELD! The quartering away shot is a favorite of many elk hunters. After over 7 hours of searching in extremely thick cover by three people, including a 500′ tightly gridded GPS search, temperatures had reached upper 80s and no chance of salvaging the meat remained. So again, I can’t say not to shoot there. A better way to focus on the elk shot placement comes from a picture that is centered just above the shoulder of the animal: One final picture depicts where you would aim on an animal that is facing you. The bullet performed well, the animal dropped like a rock. I’ve spent most of my hunting career with a rifle but have chased animals with a bow before and will do so a lot more in the future and I love the 2 holes approach, and even more the bit about aiming for the offside leg on quartering shots. The arguments against taking a frontal shot, however, are worth taking a look at as well. Because of that, don’t shoot. As hunters, we owe it to the animal, and to fellow hunters, to do all we can to make a quick, humane kill. Aiming low puts you in the “sternum” area and although the ribs are small in this area, at a fully frontal angle they are concentrated and it is best to hit above them. However, he never shed a drop of blood, and I assume the mane hair was sufficient to absorb the bleeding from the cut in his hide over the trachea. I HAD him, I burned a hole into the hair I was going to slice if I wanted the shot, and it was a slam-dunk for me. The only time I would pass on this shot angle, at this distance, would be if I was shooting a very light caliber (6.5 Creedmoor and under), or a very soft bullet. You could hear arrow cutting swamp reeds on his far side for quite a ways. There is a "Bullet Frontal Area List" on the Rifle Information Page, and an expanded version on the Tables, Charts and Lists Page. That determination can change from year to year based on better or declining proficiency. I have just let the air out of the balloon…it IS a dead bull. The brain. July 21, 2011. Best feature EVER on shot placement. Corey Jacobsen with Elk 101 walks us through the pros and cons of the frontal shot. Frontal shot on elk has the most epic blood trail {VIDEO} Many of us have seen the video that shows a kid shooting an elk straight on, and it starts bleeding like a fire hose. Two sides of that triangle are risky. On the elk, lion and all other animals I’ve taken with a frontal shot, the blood trail has been immense. Two best places to shoot a deer are the brain and approximately 4-inches above the heart. AND if you shoot a heavy arrow with solid energy, you help yourself with a pass-through and a blood trail that Ray Charles could follow. The animal is going to die, but you risk not recovering the animal. The bull quickly dies in seconds with a BOW and ARROW!Committed. This shot should only be taken by those that know what they are doing and I highly recommend that the shot not be taken over twenty yards. I had never taken a frontal shot on a bull elk until last week. Where to Shoot a Deer I am aware of the proper shot placement, and have taken two mule deer with this shot that died within sight – one traveled about 30 yards, the other about 6 feet. Educate yourself on anatomy – know ahead of time where you need to aim, and where you are comfortable aiming to make a clean shot, and STICK TO IT! However, it is imperative that the hunter that shoots this shot has a complete grasp of an elk’s anatomy as well as great shooting skill. I want a blood trail …. This applies to every aspect of the shot: distance, angle, etc. Keep up the awesome work. All about confidence in your equipment and shot placement from there. And for a quartering away shot, ALWAYS aim for the leg on the opposite side as shown in the pics. If the shot is a bit off, missing the heart and ends up in the crease, it usually is not a pass through and when the bull runs, he shears the arrow shaft and the skin covers the entry wound and he bleeds internally. If you hit any of those areas as described, you are not going to recover. Quartering AwayI also always remind hunters to look at the legs to be able to tell how much the animal is quartering or if he is solid broadside. I think most hunters have a problem with the frontal brain shot angle, other than that the shot is a simple one and at close range..but be sure you have tested your rifle at very close ranges, you may be surprised where you point of impact may be..Do your homework before you shoot and elephant is the best advise I can think of right off hand.. This preparation, combined with some basic knowledge of elk anatomy, can boost the chances of feeling excitement, and not disappointment, the next time we pull the trigger! I did, and I’m glad, he turned full broadside and I placed the broadhead right behind his near leg as he made his first step to my left. This gives the largest target with a size-able margin of error, great exposure to the vitals, and a high possibility of a quick, clean kill. At a slightly sharper angle, the leg bone is not directly in alignment with the vitals, but it leaves a smaller margin of error than a broadside shot. The image to the left shows where to aim on a straight-on (frontal) shot. The bullet, after being cleaned looked like something from a magazine add. Not a high percentage shot, but there are elk that are shot broadside at dusk, it rains or snows, and the hunters spend days looking with no results. Be patient and wait for a shot you are confident you can make. Additionally, the target is smaller, therefore, it is viewed as a low-percentage shot. Elk Vitals: The best vital shot placement on an elk with a bow is a double lung shot with the animal standing broadside. Now it's your turn, tell me why you believe a frontal shot is a good shot. We totally love what we do and when we get to share it with others and help them to have some of the same incredible experiences that has made our lives so special, well Bud, that’s a win win! ADVERTISEMENT. Hours, days, and months of practice and preparation can greatly increase our odds of being successful. Not much can be debated regarding a standing, broadside shot. Arrow penetrated 11 inches and sheared off when he ran. Last week I called a bull in to 18 yards, I had reason to believe he would scent me and spook before offering a broadside shot. The 12 Best Cartridges for Elk Hunting. Take some time to study the information MasterGuide Joe gives you here–over and over again! Had a monster at 15 yards and tried to place my shot right behind the shoulder. I’m not going to recommend taking these shots, but I’m also not going to advise against these shots. Misjudging distance has been a main reason for more missed shots than most of us probably care to count. I had a big bull moose under 20 yards, frontal for what seemed like an hour, but was only about 4-5 minutes. The center of the red dot is where you should aim to make a clean kill on a frontal shot. If you don’t get a pass through, you WILL get both lungs. From the diagram you can see that this will place your shot above the heart, solidly in both lungs, at a point where several major arteries convene. Tune in to learn when to use it, when to avoid it, and steps you take to ensure it ends in a clean harvest. Also, if you shoot off slightly to the right, left, up or down …you are still golden. I also have a 46-second 'shoot' video taken with my digital camera. Trust us when we say that no one wants to feel that sick and demoralizing feeling of losing an animal. In this area you have a 12″ window that will safely take you into the vitals. To shoot or not to shoot? More Hunting. And by shooting mid body, about 4 inches back from the crease, that line coming up from the elbow, you have plenty of room in each direction. Or worse yet, the pit in our stomach at the realization that we possibly made a bad shot. Educate yourself and practice, and your confidence will lead to success in the field! I love what you guys are doing and the way it is presented. Each and every one of us has to to determine just what the most effective range and shot placement is, that we are most comfortable with as ethical and responsible hunters. Because let us be honest, we all desire of taking down a big game with a single shot. I need to get ready for my weekend elk trip and am running a little short on time so I will probably post pictures after the weekend. Thanks Chris! To consistently produce results, you’re better off keeping your shooting skills honed year-round, not simply picking up your weapon a few days before the season opens. 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